Wednesday 29 October 2008

Verybored

Fucking hate Full Tilt. Took ten days to clear my $20 bonus, hate the software.

Managed to lose $25 in a mad rush to clear the final $2 of it 8-tabling on HUGE tilt (you know it’s bad when you get ‘lol’s at your play on three tables at the same time). Pg, you stupid fuck, just leave the $2 behind… Despite that, I cleared the bonus for a $346 profit, none of which I have left on FT.

Bit bored of poker at the moment so, to a new challenge…

Spoke to Keysie briefly last night (well, I spoke briefly, he nattered on in great length… standard) about short term swings playing cash poker and a bit about bankroll building so I have devised a mini-bankroll-build challenge for fun. Feel free to join in to see how far you can get.

The idea is to four table cash, starting with four buy-ins at the chosen level, and move up once four buy-ins at the next level is reached and drop back down should you drop under four buy-ins at the previous level.

My aim is to show that extreme bankroll nits are cunts.
My prediction is that I won’t.

For a winning player, this can only be a winner as you’re unlikely to lose four buy-ins at every level you’re forced to move down to, and the general move in stakes should be up.

And it can be applied to any starting bankroll. Obviously, you could start with $8 at $0.01/$0.02 and move up to $0.02/$0.05 when the mini-br reaches $20 (though this leaves nowhere to move down to should you fall at the first). Or start with $1600 at $2.00/$4.00 if you must, Ptevey, then up to $3.00/$6.00 with $2400… etc.

Perhaps, with only a two buy-in buffer and the swingy nature of cash, this form of bankroll building may involve too much moving down in stakes to make this +EV for the long term player. Take, for example, someone who is conventionally ‘rolled’ for $0.50/$1.00. If they decided to take this experiment on with a $1600 'mini-bankroll' at $2.00/$4.00, and started off with two drop downs (two buy-in downswings at $2.00/$4.00 and another two at $1.00/$2.00), which is very possible, it would see them back at their ‘rolled’ level with a serious dent to their ‘actual bankroll'. So, thinking about it, maybe my experiment would only be good for a quick bankroll ‘spin-up’ with some spare money (after an exceptionally profitable month, for example).

There must be something wrong with it because no one’s doing it. Except maybe Dickie.

To test the waters on something I could be horribly wrong about, I’m going to start at $0.02/$0.05 with $20 ($5 on each table) until the mini-bankroll reaches $40. Then, four table $0.05/$0.10 until $100 is reached… And so on… This is a slightly dangerous choice of starting stakes, I guess, as I only have one level to fall back on! The level is very, very weak though so it shouldn’t come to that.

I would be interested to hear any thoughts on this type of bankroll build from any ct grinders out there. Isaac, Gambon? Even Cheesio?

I have no work tomorrow (Thursday) and nothing to do so I’ll be starting the new experiment at 2pm our time on Stars, if anyone fancies joining, railing or sabotaging!

3 comments:

  1. I have no spare time before now and Vegas but I am intrigued as to how this will work out for you Nath, especially given your success in previous challenges.

    "My aim is to show that extreme bankroll nits are cunts.
    My prediction is that I won’t"

    We already know they are so it would be great for you have some substantial evidence when you race through the levels upto 2/4. This experiment would never work for a regular cash grinder for the very reason they would feel uncomfortable going against their conservative nature. It needs to be done with the "spin up" mentality and hence you are likely to succeed imo...at least until you come crashing to ground at 1/2 or something. However by then you will have already banked a decent profit and had a whale of a time.

    "There must be something wrong with it because no one’s doing it. Except maybe Dickie."

    I imagine Dickie probably employs a similar system adjusted slightly so he is actually 1 tabling with 1 buyin.

    Best of luck

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  2. SNGs!!! heh got my $3 rakeback back up to $100 now on BF playing the $2.50 sngs and gonna move to the $5 Sngs :)

    Tell u what - we can spice up your challenge even more - i'll race you to $1000 and we can prove which is better for spinning up, SNGs or Cash (cash obviously will win but lets see...)

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  3. personally i think its a bad stratagy, if you hit a sick heater then its definately maximising potential, however I just dont think cash plays that way and the swings could mean your jumping around levels so much you never get the chance to get used to the change of pace. To maximise profits at the low limits i would play off a 20bi br and multitable as much as your comfortable with with the all important RB.

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